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alex ziady

John 20:5-7 proves the shroud a fake

alex ziady

John 20:5-7 proves the shroud of turin is fake. How did this get missed, or did it? who benifitted most from the fraud?

KSP

Perhaps we should be looking at this from God's point of view. He has a massive mind, he sees across time itself, and has designed everything as is for a purpose. Therefore, the gathering concern over a shroud, could be to draw attention to a common point, for a specific reason.
At this point in time, most people have lost interest in Bible Codes, and have assumed that all codes are a farce. Is Satan directing the sheep away from truths. After all, just because one $20 dollar bill is counterfeit, does not mean that all bills are counterfeit. So how has stupidity of such a huge magnitude managed to make its way into the minds of so many?

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode_shroud_turin.htm
http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2.htm

You be the judge. Don't forget that if your ( beliefs / disbeliefs ) direct you, then it is less than truth that directs you, since there is a GAP between a belief and a truth, and thus a belief is a belief, and a truth is a truth. Thus belief systems can be used to keep you away from truths.

RJZ

The c14 test don't just "SUGGEST" a 1300's date for the Shroud - it proves it. The real lack of proof is in believing the sample was taken from a mended/rewoven section. There is too small a sample (lack of evidence) to prove the area is not representative of the shroud.
Get over your BLIND faith - take a real look at the figure depicted on the shroud - it's too easy to see IT'S NOT REAL - too many things wrong with it anatomically. Your wanting to make it real - doesn't make it real.

Allen J

Apparently his reweaving theory was accurate, watched a Discovery Channel documentary on it. Seems the mainstream Shroud scientists are now convinced the sample used for the carbon 14 dating was from a 14th Century repair. Googled some links on it.

http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/review01.pdf

http://www.advancedchristianity.com/DatingTheShroud/DatingTheShroud.htm

http://www.catholicweekly.com.au/article.php?classID=1&subclassID=2&articleID=5248&class=News&subclass=CW+National

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TIME Magazine . . .

  • TIME called it, "The Riddle of the Ages." National Geographic called it, "One of the most perplexing enigmas of modern times."

    Now, in 2008, Evangelicals, Catholics, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists and Christians of many traditions are realizing how mysterious the Shroud of Turin is. If it is a burial shroud, as it seems to be, it is evidence of the resurrection of Jesus. No more reason is needed than this: Burial shrouds don't survive tombs.

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