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Dr. Peter J. Shield

I have just returned from the Ohio convention attended by shroud experts from around the world, where the findings of the Los Alamos National Labs. have proved beyond any doubt that the piece of cloth tested in 1988 was in fact cotton not linen and is therefor not representative of the central shroud image! http://worldofunexplainedmysteries.com

R.J. Z.

Concerning the idea of a 1300 reweave - If this was true the carbon dating would have come out to be about 600 to 700 AD - not about 1300.
It's possible the associated fibers where not a reweave at all - but the way the "shroud" was originally constructed in the 1300 - that would also explain the carbon dating.

Dan Porter

Actually, the theory is not that the cloth was rewoven in the 1300s, but in mid-1600s, for which there is considerable historical evidence. The calculation is not a simple linear average and indeed original cloth from the first century CE and mending thread from the 17th century yield the dates arrived at if the ratio is roughly 50/50, which it is.

This was not the way the cloth was manufactured. It was all linen. I the area of the C14 sample, and only in this area is cotton fiber found twisted in a spliced with linen. Moreover, the cotton is dyed to match the older linen. Nowhere else is any dye or a mordant found.

RJZ

Dan - you have come out with a lot of absolutes - with very little samples (lack of evidence for what you claim).
Really no more claims can be made without more tested samples - which the church seems not willing to do.
Maybe some day the truth will be detected.
How about discussing the figure itself - the disportionality and anatomical errors. Try covering your groin with your hands lying down in a relaxed position - it does not work. One arm and fingers look larger than the other. One view (front/rear) is longer than the other. The head is so disfigured - it's a joke - eyes to high, etc. If the cloth was wrapping - touching the body the picture is all wrong.
what about it.

RJZ

If it was rewoven in 1600 - the c14 test would have come out as 800 +/- say 100 or 200 years.
There's no way you can calculate it adjusting it to make up for the time error.
Your sample is just a few fibers. All this IS THEORY - no facts.

RJZ

I guess DAN or no one else (of the Shroud Freaks)- wants to discuss the OBVIOUS MISTAKES in the figure on the Shroud.

Dan

Look, RJZ, if you would read some of Isabel Pikzak's work, or Fred Zugibe, you would have an understanding of the realism of the Anatomy. The body was not in a relaxed position if it was in rigor. But I don't think you want to have a discussion. About 120 scientists and scholars in the Shroud Science Group (some are not Christians) are not freaks and that ends the discussion.

RJZ

Look Dan - It's your use of pro references only that avoids discussion. There are pro and con references..
Rigor does not explain the figures OBVIOUS MISTAKES. You need an open mind to have discussion - look at both sides of the questions - until further testing of the Shroud - we can agree to disagree --- FINISHED

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TIME Magazine . . .

  • TIME called it, "The Riddle of the Ages." National Geographic called it, "One of the most perplexing enigmas of modern times."

    Now, in 2008, Evangelicals, Catholics, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists and Christians of many traditions are realizing how mysterious the Shroud of Turin is. If it is a burial shroud, as it seems to be, it is evidence of the resurrection of Jesus. No more reason is needed than this: Burial shrouds don't survive tombs.

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